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Dalian, China - Can You Put Up with All of the Bad for a Little Bit of the Good?

J.D. in Dalian
J.D. at Labor Park in Dalian

Being a foreigner who lives and works in China can have its ups and downs, as American expat J.D. can tell you. Read on for his take on what life is like for him in Dalian, his impressions about the people, the culture, and aspects of everyday life, and decide for yourself -- as he advises -- whether the good outweighs the bad.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?

I was born and raised in Little Rock, Arkansas, U.S.A.

-In which country and city are you living now?

I am currently living in Dalian, China - a seaside city in northeast China with a population of nearly 6 million people. I have heard before that it is the eighth largest city in China.

-Are you living alone or with your family?

I am living with my Chinese girlfriend, who I've been with for nearly 2 years.

-How long have you been living in China?

Since September 2009. At the time I am writing this, I have been in Dalian for about 20 months.

-What is your age?

I'm 24-years-old.

-When did you come up with the idea of living in China?

After I had graduated from my university in 2008, it was extremely difficult to find a job in my field of study. I had recently began traveling around the world, and I was very open to the idea of living abroad. I was very interested in Asia, but I had never traveled to any Asian countries. I had met my Chinese girlfriend online, and she told me how easy it would be for me to find a job teaching English. So, with nothing to lose, I moved to Dalian, China and became an English teacher.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a work permit?

No, it wasn't difficult, because my current employer helped me with everything. You have to do a lot of paperwork, you must get a health exam, and you have to do lots of registering with the government. It's tedious, but it's not difficult. I had to pay a lot of money up front, but all of that money was reimbursed to me in my first paycheck.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?

My employer provides me with medical insurance. It's automatically taken out of my paycheck every month, and I believe it costs me about 300 RMB per month. So far I've never had to use it.

Tiger Beach in Dalian
A shot of Tiger Beach taken from Binhai Road in Dalian.

-How do you make your living in China? Do you have any type of income generated?

Basically, my girlfriend looked around for me, and she eventually found a job for me as an English teacher at a private language school. I taught all different ages of people, from kids as young as 5, to adults over 60. There are countless opportunities to teach English here in Dalian, however, most of them will not provide you with a working visa. And so you know, working in China while on a tourist visa is technically illegal, but nobody really cares, and I've never seen any enforcement of this whatsoever.

After teaching English for one year, a job hunter called the school I was working at, and asked if I would be interested in having an interview with a major international company. The job that I would be applying for was an "English culture coach." I had nothing to lose by just going to the interview, so I did, and I got the job. I started making twice the pay that I had been making at my English school. To be honest, I enjoyed teaching English more than my current job, but I make much more now, and the benefits are much better.

By far the best way to find work here in Dalian is through word-of-mouth. Even though I work full-time Monday through Friday, I still often do private tutoring in the evenings and on the weekend for some extra income. If you just come here, and build a good reputation for yourself, Chinese people will begin asking for your help to improve their English. I am constantly having to decline teaching opportunities because my schedule is already so overloaded. You can make as high as 200 RMB per hour doing private tutoring, but I usually charge less because tutoring is super easy to me, and I don't feel like 200 RMB is a fair price (some people are willing to pay that much though).

-Do you speak the local language and do you think it's important to speak the local language?

I speak survival Mandarin. I know basic words that have to be used often, and I can read very simple Chinese characters. In other words, I can survive on my own, but I can't do anything out of the ordinary on my own. However, my girlfriend is Chinese, which helps me enormously in getting around. I really want to learn to speak more Mandarin, but I have very limited free time, and I don't want to spend most of that free time studying another language. Most of the Mandarin I know now, I learned from a program called Fluenz (very similiar to Rosetta Stone, but supposedly better). I have also learned quite a bit from my girlfriend and Chinese friends.

I don't think you have to speak Mandarin fluently to live here (I certainly don't), but I will warn you that 99% of the people in Dalian cannot speak any English other than "hello." It's going to be tremendously hard for you to get any kind of business done if you don't at least have a Chinese friend that can help you. For example, I have to send money to the USA every month, because I have student loans to pay back. I have to do this at an ICBC bank in downtown Dalian. It would be next to impossible for me to get this done if it weren't for my girlfriend. I would say if you are planning to live in China for a year or less, don't bother learning Mandarin, but if you plan to live for several years, I would definitely recommend making some kind of effort.

 By the way, Mandarin is a tonal-language with 4 unique tones (and a fifth "silent" tone), and of course Chinese isn't written in a Roman script. It's takes a lot of effort and motivation to learn, and it isn't a language you can just "pick up" by hearing it. If you don't have something motivating you to learn and practice often, chances are you'll never get around to learning it.

Oh, and one last thing. If you're genuinely trying to learn Mandarin, you should realize that most people in Dalian do not speak Putonghua (standard Mandarin), they speak Dalianhua (Dalian-Mandarin). What this means is, a lot of what you learn from your books and  computer programs will not be used by 90% of the people here. It also makes it much harder to understand what people are saying, because you have been learning something entirely different. Sure, Dalianhua isn't as drastically different as Cantonese or Shanghaihua, but it's still different enough to make learning and speaking Mandarin in Dalian more frustrating.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes? Describe your favorite recreational activities there or those that are available.

Of course I miss friends and family, but most of my family and friends are all grown up and scattered over the USA. For this reason, I don't visit home very often. Besides friends and family, I really don't miss living in America at all. I guess one of the things I do miss from back home is being able to communicate easily and effectively. Here, even simple activites like getting a haircut can be extremely frustrating if you don't speak good Mandarin.

As far as recreational activites go, Dalian has a lot of things you can do during the summer time. Because it is a seaside city, Dalian has some beaches, but most of them are too dirty for swimming. Dalian also has some nearby mountains, and even a few temples that are quite lovely. There are some good parks and squares in Dalian too. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to ride a bicycle in Dalian because of the unflat landscape and the terrible traffic. Most of the spring and autumn are too cold to be doing anything outdoors, and of course the winter too. To be honest, Dalian gets boring pretty fast, and the cold weather lasts way too long. It's also extremely windy here so it often feels much colder than it really is.

-Do you have other plans for the future?

In a couple of years, I have plans to move to Southeast Asia with my girlfriend (most likely to Thailand). I will probably continue my career in the English field because I feel like I am improving over time, and I enjoy teaching people. I don't see myself going back to America within the next 10 years, because I love living abroad and traveling. Since I moved to China, I have traveled to South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia. My favorite place was the Philippines, but I don't plan to move there because I heard it's extremely hard for a foreigner to find work there. So, that's why I've decided that Thailand is the next place I want to live.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

I have lived in three different apartments in three completely different parts of the city. I lived in my first apartment for a year, and it cost me 1,500 RMB per month. It was the size of a standard hotel room with no bedrooms. I absolutely hated living there. For starters, it was located in a hotel, so I constantly had to be around annoying Chinese tourists. Second, it was right in the center of the city, which seems like a good idea, but it's not. That area was ridiculously loud, and there are people EVERYWHERE. Third, about half the elevators in my hotel were broken, so this caused me to be late on more than one occasion. I lived on the 19th floor, so using the stairs was not a good option. One time I waited 30 minutes before the elevator finally arrived (I am not joking). Also, that part of town is where all the tourists go, so there are lots of people trying to rip you off and lots of pickpockets. It got old pretty quick. There are countless other complaints I have about this apartment, but I won't go into them.

After living in my first apartment for a year, I moved into an apartment closer to my new job, which is located about 30 minutes from the city center. That apartment cost me 2,200 RMB per month, and it did indeed have a bedroom. Lots of my Chinese friends told me that price was very high. I liked that apartment way more than my first one, but I still didn't "like" it. One of the reasons I didn't like that apartment was because the street noise was extremely loud, and I got woken up constantly. Also, neighbors in Dalian seem to have no consideration for others. I get woken up all the time by hammering at 7 AM, people shouting at each other down the halls at 2 AM, and people constantly slamming their doors throughout the night.

 My third apartment was the best of the three, and it was between downtown and my office. It took me 10 minutes to get to work, and 10 minutes to get downtown. I really liked the location. I was only paying 2,000 RMB each month, and the apartment had a nice kitchen and a bedroom. As crazy as it sounds, I didn't like my third apartment either. I got woken up almost every morning by a school outside. The school would do exercises outside early in the morning, and a man would be shouting over the mega-phone the entire time. For reasons I can't explain, the mega-phone was always turned up to deafening volume levels, so anyone within a one-kilometer radius would be able to hear it. In other words, it was impossible to sleep when these exercises began. Another reason I didn't like the apartment so much was because the landlord was a very snotty young woman. I have no idea why, but it seemed like she really hated me for renting her apartment.

On a side note, landlords in Dalian have way too much power. All three of my landlords treated me very nasty and like they were doing me a big favor by letting me live in their apartments. You basically have to beg them to let you rent their apartment, and they are generally quite unfriendly. Don't expect much help if something goes wrong in your apartment. Of course there are some good landlords out there, but often it seems like there are few and they are far between. Also, some landlords will try to not return your security deposit for no reason, and they will lie to you as to why they kept it. This is a common complaint from foreigners living in China.

The landlord from my first apartment tried to scam me by saying I needed to pay him about 1,500 RMB for some kind of "air-conditioning fee." This was outrageous because the entire year I had lived in that apartment, not once did I have cold air or any kind of air at all (another complaint I have about that apartment). I refused to pay it, and one day he and his wife showed up at my new apartment, and refused to leave my apartment until I payed them the money. They shouted violently in my girlfriend's face, and I even called the police. However, when the police arrived, they just left and said they can't make the landlord and his wife leave my apartment because it was a personal dispute. I was pretty shocked about that. They couldn't just make them leave? After about four hours of shouting, the couple finally left, even though I didn't pay them anything. Luckily, I haven't heard from them since. It was probably the single worst experience I've had in Dalian.

The bedroom of my second apartment in Dalian 

 The bedroom of my second apartment in Dalian.

-What is the cost of living in Dalian?

Like everybody says, it totally depends on your lifestyle, but I think you could live off of $500 a month quite easily. Bear in mind that most Chinese people in Dalian make less than $500 per month, and of course they all manage to live here. I make about 11,000 RMB a month, and I live pretty comfortably. Unfortunately, I am still paying off my student loans, so a big chunk of my income goes to that. Hopefully I can have them completely paid off in about a year, and I can live even more comfortably. Like I mentioned earlier, I've been able to travel to quite a few Asian countries while living in China.

To give you an idea about my lifestyle, I kind of like to live halfway like a Chinese person, and halfway like an American person. I personally spend about 1,500 RMB on food and beverages each month. I buy both Chinese food and some Western food. I probably spend about 100 RMB a month on transportation, which is ridiculously cheap compared to America. I usually take the bus everywhere I go (which costs 1 RMB each way), and I take a taxi late at night when the buses stop running. I spend an average of about 2,000 RMB a month on my apartment, and probably 350 RMB a month on the utilities (which includes internet access and cable TV). I pay about 50 RMB a month for my mobile phone service. After you do the math, you can see that leaves me with quite a bit of extra money, which I mostly use to pay my student loans, shop a little, or travel.

-What do you think about the locals? (also how they treat foreigners) 

I hate to say it, but I think Chinese society is a little ill. The way people treat strangers here is sad. As you have likely heard, people in China can be quite rude and impolite. This is somewhat of an understatement. Some of the things you're going to have to get used to are pushing, cutting in line, spitting, and staring (if you're not Asian-looking). Basically the mentality here is: if I don't know you, screw you. For example, if you were hit by a car here, most likely no one would help you (just Google "Yue Yue Guangdong"). A large crowd of Chinese people would gather around you as you lay dying, and they would just stare at you, but not help you, nor call for help. This is sad, but true. I also have the impression that many people here have no shame. You will constantly see people using the bathroom right out in the open during the summer time (number one and number two).

When it comes to being a foreigner in China, people tend to say that foreigners are treated really well here. This is only half true. Chinese people will be very curious to learn about you and your background, which is kind of a good and bad thing. However, if you are a foreigner, people tend to give you no privacy, and lots of people will ask you very awkward questions that you may feel uncomfortable answering. Chinese people openly stare at foreigners too, so be prepared for lots of that. Many older people will give you mean and nasty looks. I'm pretty much used to the staring, but I still get annoyed when I walk into a store or restaurant, and everybody in the place turns around and stares at me with no shame at all (this happens a lot too). There are also lots of places that you will enter, and it will become very clear to you that foreigners aren't really welcome there. I think sometimes Chinese people forget that foreigners are human beings too. Get prepared to hear the word "laowai" almost everywhere you go (laowai means foreigner in Mandarin). People will be constantly talking about you right behind your back. The more you learn Mandarin, the more you will learn about how much people are talking about you.

Foreigners can also get away with a lot of things that Chinese people would never get away with, but vice versa is also true - there's a lot of things Chinese people get away with that foreigners could never get away with. Don't ever get into a car crash here either, because the inevitable crowd that forms will be against the "laowai," and you will always be to blame for the accident.

If you are Caucasian, and even remotely attractive, you're probably going to get a lot of compliments. White is beautiful in China. Unfortunately, I have heard on multiple occasions from Chinese people that they think people with dark skin look unattractive. You're going to notice huge number of whitening products in Dalian, and you will notice that Chinese women are basically afraid of sunshine.

Also, if you're a foreigner, some people are going to try to rip you off or take advantage of you. Chinese people think all white people are rich, and we all know how untrue that is. Expect price mark-ups in any situation where the price isn't fixed. For this reason, you should definitely haggle almost anywhere you shop. Also, there have been multiple occasions where people tried to short change me, or they would say that I didn't give them enough money (when I definitely did), so don't let your guard down. To be fair, Chinese people will do these things to other Chinese people too, but foreigners will experince it far more than other Chinese people, and the numbers will be far higher for foreigners. For example, let's say a pair of shoes actually costs 100 RMB. They might tell a Chinese person 120 RMB, but they will tell a foreigner 300 RMB!

So to summarize everything I just said, Chinese people will be curious about foreigners, let them get away with certain things, and more eager to help them, but at the same time Chinese people don't respect foreigners' privacy, foreigners are not welcome in some places, Chinese overly stereotype foreigners, and some will try to cheat foreigners. You can decide for yourself if the good outweighs the bad.

Olympic Square in Dalian 

 Olympic Square in Dalian.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in Dalian?

I feel guilty to say it, but I think the negative aspects outweigh the positive ones. I will begin with the positive aspects.

Positive:

1. Chinese people are very family oriented and tend to be much more resposible than Americans in that field. You pretty much never see teens with children here.

2. It's relatively cheap to live in Dalian (look at everything I said above), but the cost of living is going up rapidly.

3. Efficient public transportation system (but way too overcrowded). You absolutely do not need a car here. There are plenty of buses and plenty of taxis everywhere. I want to note that 95% of the buses will stop running around 9 PM. Myself, I use an e-bike to get around the city because they are cheap, clean, quiet, and they don't require me to do any pedalling. I'm definitely taking a huge risk by doing so though.

4. LOTS of beautiful women that are in good shape physically and look very feminine (I can't say the same about lots of the girls in Little Rock). This is definitely a plus if you're a single male. So much eye candy everywhere. Dalian has a reputation around China as having some of the most beautiful women in China. That said, many Chinese models are from Dalian.

5. Lots of people are more eager to help you and get to know you if you're a foreigner.

6. China is a large country, so there are lots of interesting and different places you could visit. It would take you forever to see the whole country. Islamic Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, the Great Wall, the Forbidden City, the giant Leshan Buddha in Sichuan province, and the beaches in Hainan - China has a lot to see! Also, Seoul is only a one-hour flight from Dalian, so flights to Seoul are relatively cheap.

7. There's a large variety of Chinese food. The food here is also quite delicious, but most of it's very unhealthy because it's way too oily or salty. I wonder how Chinese people stay so thin sometimes. Also, if you're not into rice or noodles, you're going to hate the food here. Almost every Indian person I have met in Dalian despises the food here, but I love most of it. And on a side note, Chinese breakfasts suck. Most people here just eat porridge or eggs for breakfast, so there's not much variety in the breakfast field. When it comes to drinks, China also falls very short.

8. The laws here can be very loose at times. There's a lot of things you can get away with in China that you could never get away with back home. However, this could easily be considered a negative aspect as well. For example, hit-and-runs are extremely common here because there will almost never be an investigation to find the perpertrator. Prostitution is also the norm here.

9. Moderately low taxes. There is no sales tax in China and income taxes are relatively low. Right now, only about 10% of my paycheck goes to income taxes. Hopefully that won't change. However, tariffs are sky-high here, so any foreign products will be ridiculously over-priced.

Negative:

1. Dalian is very monocultural. There's pretty much no diversity here (not that I had expected there to be). People are also quite close-minded to trying new things and often have illogical reasons to support their close-mindedness. Also, people in Dalian can never "think outside the box." Even though Dalian is a "big" city, people have a small-town mentality.

2. Ridiculously high noise levels. Everywhere you go there is noise, whether it be construction trucks, advertisements being played over a megaphone, people hammering in the room next to you, or people shouting loudly on their cell phone. Get used to the sound of car horns and ultra-loud construction trucks practically everywhere in the city. You will also feel like your ears are about to bleed whenever entering bars or clubs or watching a musical performance. It's very difficult to find "peace and quiet" here. And if you ever do find it, it will only be a few months until that area becomes developed and not so quiet anymore.

3. A seriously corrupt, unhelpful, and surpressive government. This problem is so big, it's hard to fathom. Pretty much everything that is bad in Dalian is probably in some way related to corruption. The government is certainly not your friend here unless you have money (I'm sure that doesn't surprise anybody). For example, don't expect to get any quality medical treatment at a hospital here unless you bribe the doctor first.

4. Rude, impolite, and crude people. This is probably the number one complaint you will hear from other foreigners. It's pretty hard to get used to. I've been to a lot of countries, and people in China are by far the most impolite. This can't be emphasized enough.

5. Lack of privacy. Being a foreigner, you can pretty much kiss your private life goodbye. People are always going to be curious about you, and pretty much the moment you step out of your home, people will be staring and talking about you. This is especially true when you eat at restaurants and are riding the bus. The further you get from the city center, the more true this statement will become. I wouldn't even consider living in outer districts such as Ganjingzi or Kaifaqu for this reason. Throughout Dalian, I often have people shout "hello!" at me as I walk by, as if it's some kind of funny joke (definitely not in a polite way either). Some people will even dig through your shopping cart at the supermarket. It's pretty much like you're living inside of a cage at the zoo when you live in Dalian as a foreigner.

6. A tiny expat community. This doesn't bother me so much, but I'm sure others won't like it. There's probably only a few thousand foreigners in the city (if you exclude people from other Asian countries). When you consider that Dalian has almost 6 million people, that means the foreign community makes up only about 0.0005% of the population. Most of the foreigners I've met here are from Russia. I can count the number of Americans I've met here on one hand. Expats also don't stick around Dalian for too long. Most people get the hell out after a year or so.

7. Inefficiency. Be prepared for everything here to be painfully slow. Even something as simple as a deposit at the bank can take an hour to accomplish. Everything in China needs to have an official "stamp." These stamps are not always easy to get. Also, customer service here is practically nonexistent. You, the customer, have no respect and rights here. This can get really tiresome after a while, but there's nothing you can do to change it. You will probably never see a customer service employee smile here.

8. Way too many people everywhere. China is EXTREMELY overcrowded, and you can feel it. Kiss your personal space goodbye. This is probably the worst part about living in China. This will affect your life in so many ways. For starters, buses and trains here can be severely overcrowded. Also, trips to the supermarket can be a complete nightmare. Going to the supermarket on an ordinary day in Dalian is like going shopping on Black Friday in America - complete chaos.

9. Awful driving and constant traffic jams. Drivers in China are by far the worst I've seen in the world, and I've seen quite a bit of bad driving in my lifetime. The way people drive here is disgusting, and traffic rules pretty much don't exist. Pedestrians have no rights whatsoever. Maximum aggression is the norm!

10. No quality control. There are no "middle of the road" products in China. You either pay little and get complete garbage, or you pay a lot and get something "luxurious" - there is no middle. As you all probably know, China does not have a good reputation with the rest of the world when it comes to quality. Also, anything made by a foreign brand is wildly expensive here. Adidas body spray is $12 here, but $3 in the USA and other Asian countries! It's really hard to find decent quality stuff here at a decent price. I cannot count the number of things I've bought here that broke after only a few weeks.

11. Terrible pollution and a complete lack of cleanliness. Pollution in China is a severe problem, and the government doesn't seem to be doing much to fix it. I've noticed I cough and sneeze a lot since I began living here. Also, I notice my throat is constantly filled with phlegm (it's disgusting, but true). There's a layer of dust covering everything outdoors in Dalian. And Chinese people litter a lot. Sometimes I think Chinese people think it's cool to litter. People also use the bathroom right out in the open. I saw a kid maybe 10 years old going number two right outside of the supermarket today, completely out in the open. Bathrooms here are also notoriously filthy. Chinese men just can't seem to urinate into urinals properly. Half of the time you use a urinal here, you will be standing in a pool of urine, and you will see pubic hair all over the urinals. Cooking is also very unsanitary and expect lots of stomach aches and diarrhea. And last but not least, Chinese people spit everywhere, including indoors, such as the supermarket or at restaurants, and on the bus and train. Get used to hearing that hocking sound when someone is about to spit because you will hear it A LOT here! Personal hygiene isn't as good as it should be either. Here, taking a shower once a week is relatively normal.

12. Cold and windy weather. I constantly hear local people talk about how great Dalian's weather is. I have no idea why they think that. The cool/cold season lasts about 7.5 months, and the warm/hot season lasts about 4.5 months. Dalian is fiercely windy in the winter as well - the wind can be so strong it will almost knock you over. Even though the temperature outside may only be 30 degrees Fahrenheit, it may feel like -15 degrees because of the wind chill. Expect chapped lips all winter. The weather here is very similar to the weather in Chicago, but a little worse. Most of the year seems very drab and depressing.

13. A painfully slow and crippled internet. You're going to notice that half the websites you used back home don't work in China. Facebook, Twitter, Blogspot, Google, and Youtube are all blocked here. Using the internet in China can be extremely frustrating. I strongly recommend paying for VPN service if you move to China.

14. No cold drinks. Except for a few months out of the year, it is almost impossible to find any cold drinks in Dalian. For example, if you order a beer in a restaurant, you will get a warm beer that has never even touched a refrigerator. And trust me, warm Chinese beer does not taste very good. Many stores in Dalian will have their drinks in a refridgerator, but more often than not, the refridgerator is off. Also, drinks served with ice do not exist in Dalian. I have never seen ice sold anywhere in Dalian. Using ice is unheard of here, so all you people out there wanting a nice, cold brew can forget about it.

15. Chinese people, especially the women, are extremely materialistic. Material possessions are all most people care about. They always want to flaunt their new iPhones, BMWs, or Gucci handbags to show their "class." That said, most people here love mindlessly shopping, but they would never think twice about spending their money on something like traveling (unless they can buy more material possessions by traveling).

16. A lack of creative and critically-thinking people. Chinese culture is a culture that emphasizes "conformity" and not standing out in any way. Being unique in China is a disturbance to Chinese social harmony. Because of this, you almost never meet any people here with creative abilities or unique personalities. Creativity is not considered important, and it is not a priority in the education here. It's hard to find good artists, musicians, film makers, or writers in China. And as all of you reading this probably know, China is infamous for "copying / faking" technology and ideas from the West. This is because most Chinese people lack the ability to be innovative, but they are very good at following. One of the most creative people in China, Ai Weiwei, is constantly in hiding and on the run from Chinese authorities. It's not hard to see why.

17. Face. Just like so many other Asian countries, "face" is considered highly important in China. Actually, the concept of "face" began in China. Because of face, so many people do not face up to their responsibilities, and will completely deny any wrong-doing when they've done something wrong - all because they want to save their face. People will also put on a little show to make themselves appear to be a decent human being, when in reality, they're a lying crook. In my opinion, "face" is just another form of dishonesty. It is also very hard to tell who is truly your friend, and who is putting on a show.

18. Superstitions. There are way too many superstitions in China, and all of them have no scientific merit whatsoever. For example, I've heard people say that drinking coffee will make your skin darker. I have also heard that wearing glasses will change the shape of your face. You can't argue scientific facts here because no one will have a clue what you're talking about, and of course no one here would ever be able to provide any scientific data to back up their ridiculous claims.

 19. Public Drunkeness. It's perfectly acceptable to be drunk in public in Dalian. What this means is that practically every time you go to a restaurant during standard dinner hours, it's almost a guarantee you're going to be surrounded by loud and obnoxious drunken Chinese people. This is kind of amusing when you first arrive in Dalian, but trust me, it gets old quick! Being a foreigner, you can rest assured that you will be the focus of many drunken strangers that you have absolutely no desire to speak to. Also, there are puddles of vomit everywhere on Dalian sidewalks. This is because of the drunken people stumbling out of the restaurants around 9 or 10 PM, and then vomiting all over the sidewalk. I cannot count the number of time I saw someone vomitting on the sidewalk outside of a bar or restaurant.

20. Colorless. I'm not sure if it's because of the Communism, but Chinese people don't seem to like vibrant colors very much. Take a look at any picture of a lot of people in China, and you will notice that so many of the people are wearing black, grey, or dark blue. Buildings are also colorless in Dalian, and when bulding become about ten years old, they will look fifty years old.

Xinghai Square in Dalian 

Xinghai Square at night in Dalian.

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in Dalian?

Be prepared for a cold and long winter! Never let your guard down and never trust a stranger in Dalian. You will notice the more you walk alone, the more strange encounters you will have. Pay close attention to your money when engaging in any kind of financial transaction. Don't rely on the government or police for anything. Never take anything for face value in China. Just because it looks good on the outside, doesn't necessarily mean it's good on the inside. This is true for practically EVERYTHING! Also be very careful with who you trust in Dalian.

Be prepared to encounter a lot of behavior you would never encounter back home. Also, make sure you bring a lot of your favorite things from home with you when you come to Dalian, because there's a strong chance you won't find them there, or at least not for a reasonable price. Absolutely do not trust ANYTHING made by a Chinese brand. Make as many Chinese friends as you can while living in Dalian, because they can completely change how you view Dalian and China as a whole. Don't only socialize with other expats.

China is a land of contradictions, and living in China will definitely test your patience and strength. I always think living in a different country will be a piece of cake if you lived in China first. I think if you plan to live in Dalian, one to three years is long enough. Anything longer seems like it would be extremely boring. I don't think Dalian is exciting enough to stay any longer.

Find ways to occasionally "escape" from China while you live there. All expats need a break from China every so often. I encourage you to travel to neighboring countries such as Mongolia, Russia, India, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and/or Thailand. Airfare to these destinations is likely cheaper while you're in China as opposed to your home country. You should also find ways to avoid some of the negative things mentioned above. If you always encounter these things over and over again on a daily basis, they will start to drive you insane.

The bottom line is that life in China is a huge change and a big adventure, but I wouldn't want to live there long-term. However, I have no regrets about living there, and I think it made me a much stronger person. Dalian was a good place for me to begin my journey living abroad. Dalian showed me both Heaven and Hell. I had an interesting time living there. Try to focus on the good things while living there and not the bad (which sometimes seems way easier said than done). You will eventually get somewhat used to all the things that bother you in Dalian, and you can easily make a lot of friends.

I know there's a lot of negativity in what I wrote, but don't let those things stop you from visiting or living in Dalian. Everybody needs to experience things first-hand to see if they truly like them or not. I read many awful things about certain countries around the world, but when I visited them, I was shocked at how much I liked them.

That said, I tried to make my interview as honest as possible without sugar-coating anything. I think people deserve the truth, and then they can judge for themselves whether Dalian is suitable for them. I hope I didn't offend anyone, but unavoidably I'm sure someone in love with China and thinks China can do no bad is going to complain about what I wrote.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about China?

The website that most of the foreigners and young Chinese people use is: http://www.weliveindalian.com

A useful website for learning about Dalian is: http://www.dalianxpat.org

The website of one of the only English language magazines in Dalian:  http://www.focusondalian.com/

An English language news website about what's going on in Dalian: http://www.whatsondalian.com/ 

My favorite website about living in China as an expat: http://www.lostlaowai.com

Internship in China

Hasan Kazem

Hasan's stay in China, brief as it may be, has been full of exciting experiences so far. Going to China is a decision he doesn't regret making. Here he talks about how he came to be in China in the first place, his thoughts on speaking the local language, and other aspects of his life as a transient expat in China.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?

I was born in Regensburg, Germany. We moved to Amsterdam, The Netherland 2 years later and I've lived there all my life.

-In which country and city are you living now?

Taicang, China

-Are you living alone or with your family?

Alone

-How long have you been living in China?

Since 3 weeks, I'm staying here until January.

-What is your age?

24

-When did you come up with the idea of living in China?

Last year when we were a semester away from our internship that would leat us to our final thesis. 

A friend and I wanted something new, something refreshing, somewhere far away where we could learn about life.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a work permit?

Not at all, we had an invitation from the company we're working for.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?

I'm keeping my Dutch medical insurance, since I'm staying here just until January.

-How do you make your living in China? Do you have any type of income generated?

The company I'm working for pays everything. I only have to pay for food, traveling and other personal things.

-Do you speak the local language and do you think it's important to speak the local language?

It's hard to communicate, since not many people here speak English and I don't speak Chinese. It would be a lot easier if I spoke Chinese, because sometimes you need to know something, but you don't know how to explain. For example, I'm a Muslim and I want to know when the Ramadan period starts, but the local Muslims don't know what Ramadan means and I don't know the Chinese word for it.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes?

I do miss my family, but everything here is new and I'm having a great time, so I don't really realize it. When I'm in bed at night, I do think about my family. I stored all pictures on my phone, so I can look at the people I miss whenever I want.

-Do you have other plans for the future?

I'm looking for a niche to take a jump into the Dutch / European market, but I haven't met the right person. If I start up something, I might come back once in a while to meet with business partners.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

I live in a house with 4 bedrooms, a kitchen and a living room. My work pays for it and I have no idea how much they pay for it.

-What is the cost of living in China?

Well, a dinner costs you 10 euros a day easily. Lunch about 5, but then again I never cook!

-What do you think about the Chinese? 

Well, they're kind of used to Caucasians, but I have an Indian look, so they stare at me all the time. I went to the barber the other day and this other boy was filming me, so they're not really used to it. 

In general, the people are warm and nice.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in China?

Positive: New experiences

Negative: Language barrier

 -Do you have any tips for our readers about living in China?

You won't regret it. I can write about it all I want, but you have to come here to experience it.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about China?

http://hazankazem.com

A mission to make learning modern and personal for the Asian region: Interview with Australian expat Paul in Hong Kong

Paul McMahon
Paul's Pic

Education and technology are two of Australian expat Paul's passions. They form a large part of his life in Hong Kong, where he has been living for more than four years now. Read on for his take on expat life in this bustling Southeast Asian metropolis and his thoughts on the educational system.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?

Melbourne, Australia

-In which country and city are you living now?

Hong Kong SAR, China

-Are you living alone or with your family?

With my wife and soon to have another family member here.

-How long have you been living in Hong Kong?

Over 4 years.

-What is your age?

The wrong side of 40!

-When did you come up with the idea of living in Hong Kong?

Have always been open to work abroad. Lived in London for 2 years in a former life. Smile  A work offer helped. Also the chance to learn about another part of the world.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a work permit?

No, the school I took the job with did all of this for me.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?

No, again the school I took the job with did all of this for me.

-How do you make your living in Hong Kong? Do you have any type of income generated?

This is the interesting part! The job with the school did not work out. I left after 12 months. I made contact with another expat Aussie who set up his own business here. I went to work for him for a while but he was very single minded and so am I, so we did not share a common path. I left to start up my own consultancy. I have now been working in this for over 2 years and things are starting to grow for me.

-Do you speak the local language and do you think it's important to speak the local language?

I do not speak the local language. I am ashamed to admit this but my business does not require me to do so. To learn it would be like taking up a hobby and I just do not have the time to do this.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes?

Yes and no. I loved triathlon in Australia but there are keen triathletes here in HK. I have added to my group of friends and also have been challenged in new areas. All good!

-Do you have other plans for the future?

Yep! My aim is to support many more kids in Hong Kong and the region use the ubiquitous technology that they interact with daily to be a big part of their learning. At the moment, schools here are very traditional and examination focused and I want to be a part of a move to allow a lot more creativity. See my blog for a lot more comments on this.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

We bought a very tiny shoebox 2 bedroom and only around 360 square feet for just under $4 million Hong Kong dollars. Crazy I know, but it is all relative!

-What is the cost of living in Hong Kong?

Accommodation is the killer! You can eat cheaply and your commodities are cheap.

-What do you think about the locals? 

For the most part, fantastic. They do not smile by nature but, like those in other places, would go out of their way to help if they can. 

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in Hong Kong?

Positive: Lively, cosmopolitan, melting pot, optimistic.

Negative: Conservative, crowded.

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in Hong Kong?

Get help and support from others before coming. This site is proabably a great source of advice.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about Hong Kong?

Check out my blog: http://xpatasia.edublogs.org. Great range of topics about the education system in Hong Kong and about teaching internationally (especially in the Asia Pacific).

Ghost woman in Hong Kong

Gweipo

Originally from South Africa, "Gweipo" has been living in other countries for more than a decade, and presently calls Hong Kong in China "home." Here she describes her family life in this bustling Chinese metropolis, shares what it's like for her as an expat to live in Hong Kong, and gives some helpful tips on adjusting better to the local life and culture.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?

South Africa

-In which country and city are you living now?

Hong Kong, China

-Are you living alone or with your family?

With my husband and 2 children aged 7 and 5.

-How long have you been living in Hong Kong?

Since August 2006.  This is our 2nd time in HK, we were here before (without kids) from 1999-2001.

-What is your age?

43

-When did you come up with the idea of living in Hong Kong?

My husband was given 48 hours notice to transfer here by his company who had a crisis in HK and he had to come and solve it.  I was delighted at the prospect, since we'd very much loved living here before.  Our only concern was the rumoured pollution and leaving a house and garden in Spain to trade in for a small apartment in high rise living HK.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a working permit?

I'm on a dependant visa, when I was working here, it wasn't hard to swap that to a working visa.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?

No, we're covered by my husband's company's policy, but it would be easy enough if we weren't.

-How do you make your living in Hong Kong? Do you have any type of income generated?

I don't do formal work here, I volunteer at my children's schools and help out wherever it is needed.  I only try to generate goodwill, not income!

-Do you speak the local language and do you think it's important to speak the local language?

I'm studying Mandarin which I'm really enjoying.  It's very challenging - especially the reading and writing.  I can get by with a little bit of Cantonese in the market and taxi, but I made the commitment to Mandarin in order to support my children who are in bilingual education.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes? Describe your favorite recreational activities in Hong Kong.

I've been on the move for 16 years, and I'm a forward looking person.  I don't have any place I call 'home' except where I'm currently living.

Hong Kong has the most amazing variety of recreational activities that suit all types, whether you like hiking and sports, sailing, climbing, skating, drinking, eating, running, cycling there will be a club of people doing it enthusiastically.  Personally I love Hong Kong's nature trails, photography, writing, etc.

-Do you have other plans for the future?

Learn more Chinese, travel more in China.  Learn more, experience more.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

We're renting in central, and paying an enormous amount since we came here when rents were at a peak.  In this area you're paying between US$10-20k per month.

-What is the cost of living in Hong Kong?

It depends.  You can have a very expensive life style or a very cheap life style. It depends on who you hang out with, how much you drink and if you like designer wear.  Eating out can be very reasonable or extremely expensive.  International schooling is expensive and so are extra-curricular activities for children, especially music lessons.  That's the biggest item on our monthly costs.

Public transport is very well organised and very cheap.

-What do you think about the locals?

I enjoy the locals.  They're an interesting group of people and I'm having the pleasure of getting to know more of them now that my daughter is in a school which has mainly local children. 

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in Hong Kong?

+ It's compact, it's efficient and it works.  Everything is accessible, there are great outdoor activities.  HK has a wonderful range of very interesting people living there and it is intellectually very stimulating.  Something is happening every day and every night and it's hard to choose what to do.

+ My kids have the opportunity to learn Chinese (Mandarin), which I think is a fabulous thing and worth staying in HK for.

+ Having help in the home is wonderful when you have young children.

 - My kids would dearly love to have a garden and a 'home all to ourselves' i.e. not live in a high rise apartment.  Rental is very expensive, so apartments are small.  Personally, I enjoy city life.

- The pollution is truly bad some days.  We've had no immediate effects on our health, but I do worry about the long term effects.

- HK is a very, very noisy place.

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in Hong Kong?

Embrace it.  Take everything it has to offer and enjoy.  Don't focus on what you've left behind.  Learn the language (or Mandarin).  Make an effort to get involved with life here.  Associate with people who are positive and who like HK.

HK can be very alienating when you first arrive, you need to get out and introduce yourself to people.  Joining one of the expatriate associations is a good idea.  I'd recommend the Australian Association or the American Woman's Association.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about Hong Kong?

  • http://www.geobaby.com is good for parents with young kids, since it helps you find playgroups / get advice particularly if your kids are not at school yet.
  • The Australian Association is full of really nice, fun people who are very kind to newcomers and help you feel at home in Hong Kong: http://www.ozhongkong.com.

An American Artist in Hong Kong

Elizabeth Briel
Elizabeth Briel

American expat Elizabeth is no newbie when it comes to the Asian way of life, having lived in Cambodia for some time before moving with her husband to Hong Kong, China. A writer-illustrator, she shares with us some of her expat experiences in Hong Kong, such as the survival skills she's learned, and her "cheap-and-cheerful" spending habits in her Hong Kong island home.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?

California, USA

-In which country and city are you living now?

Hong Kong, China

  A fishing boat from Aberdeen Harbor, Hong Kong Island

-Are you living alone or with your family?

With my husband, Roy McClean

-How long have you been living in Hong Kong?

2 years

-What is your age?

34

-When did you come up with the idea of living in Hong Kong?

It was Roy's idea. He'd found a Kung Fu master he wanted to study with in Kowloon (HK), and he'd always enjoyed the city, so decided to teach English here during the day and train in martial arts at night.

We haven't been on a post-colonial "expat posting" by any means; we've made our own way here, on our own terms. It's been a more difficult, but more flexible arrangement.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a working permit?

There are different ways to go about it: one needs to be sponsored by someone - an employer, or a permanent resident (by marrying them), or self-sponsoring via a business visa. I agreed to move here because I could remain here on a dependent visa, which would allow me to freelance for various employers.

HK has always been open to entrepreneurs. Technically I run my own art company, The Cyan Studio. Though I've closed the gallery/studio space to focus on other projects, I still work under my business name. Eventually this could be turned into an endeavor to sponsor my own visa.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?

As I've no chronic health problems and am under 40, I don't have private insurance yet. The public health system here is very efficient, and a good value - like most HK government services.

-How do you make your living in Hong Kong? Do you have any type of income generated?

I also teach painting 2 days a week to adults and children at an art center, and sell my artwork. My living costs are quite low due to the affordable island where I live, and my cheap-and-cheerful spending habits.

 Fisherman's house on the rarely-visited Park Island

For the teaching, I responded to an ad in the English-language South China Morning Post, but networking is of course the best way to get good jobs. The freelance projects originated from postings on my blog which were then turned into free essays for a book, then led to some paying work.

All the work I've gotten here has been once on the ground, but my field relies more on personal connections than most. Many executive expats come here via a transfer within their international company.

It's very industry-specific in HK. Finding my first job here took about 2 months, but this varies depending on your experience and industry. Traditionally, finance/banking are safe bets for jobs here, but naturally that's in flux right now.

For most of the "jobs" I've worked here, I've used recruiting sites like http://www.jobsdb.com, but I really found the HK edition of recruit.net gave me a great variety of possibilities not found elsewhere. I did searches for "native speakers", "art", "painting", etc.

Again, networking is by far the best way to get a job in HK, or anywhere.

-Do you speak the local language and do you think it's important to speak the local language? Please add your thoughts on local customs and whether it's important for expats to respect/observe local customs.

Ashamed to admit it but I don't speak much at all, just basic "market Cantonese" for greeting and haggling over prices. If you speak the local language it shows respect for where you're living. If we planned to stay here long-term, I would've taken a language course somewhere like the always entertaining Happy Jellyfish language bureau: http://www.happyjellyfish.com.

After 5 years in Asia, local customs in a new place are pretty straightforward. One skill to master here is the flexible walking patterns: people don't walk in a straight line, they wander in the general direction in which they're going, and react unconsciously to those around them. I think it's a survival skill in such a densely populated place.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes? Describe your favorite recreational activities there or those that are available.

Nope, home is wherever I am. My husband is British, we met in South Korea, and don't intend to live long-term in either of the countries where we were born; we're still looking for a place where we'd like to spend most of the year. It may be our next destination: Australia.

We've really enjoyed the island where we live, Lamma Island (http://www.lamma.com.hk). There are lots of hiking and swimming opportunities around the corner, but we're also happy to just split a bottle of wine on our balcony and enjoy our view of a lush green valley.

-Do you have other plans for the future?

Yes! We are in the process of moving to Sydney, where Roy has a job in the water industry, thanks to his previous experience in the UK. I've a 3-month project to research handmade SE Asian papermaking next spring for a new book with ThingsAsian Press, and have also been invited by my old sculpture teacher to stay at his art center in Tuscany over the summer. Hopefully I'll manage both endeavors next year, while keeping an eye out for art opportunities in Australia.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

We rent a 650-square foot flat on Lamma Island, a 30-minute ferry ride from the Central business district of Hong Kong. Our flat is a 15-minute walk from the ferry pier, which means it's cheaper than some: it's only around US$625/month. For the same space, one could pay anywhere from US$1000-10,000 or more in HK, depending on where you decide to live. We might have considered buying here, but buildings are designed with planned obsolescence in mind.

 View from the Star Ferry at night

-What is the cost of living in Hong Kong?

As mentioned above, it can vary enormously, though rents in some areas will probably go down next year. One can live well on US$1000/month, or twenty times that, it all depends on your spending habits and creativity.

-What do you think about the locals?

Aside from foreigner ghettos like the bar district of Lan Kwai Fong, HK is not "western" or "westernized", as is the popular perception elsewhere. It is Chinese but not quite "China". A unique place, and quite a contrast to neighboring Macau, though the Pearl River Delta is naturally beginning to become a more tightly-knit region.

I think HK is a fantastic introduction to Asia for a first-time visitor: it's "exotic" yet has familiar aspects and is built for the convenience of residents and travellers alike. Our airport is regularly voted as the best in the world, and I'd have to agree.  There's also the somewhat antipathetic legacy of colonialism. Some ambivalence about Mainland China, but it seems the prejudices towards "mainlanders" are growing more muted.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in Hong Kong?

Plus:

  • Convenience, convenience, convenience!! (HK's #1 priority)
  • Low taxes, especially if you're married, and virtually no VAT (sales tax). It's a great place to build your savings.
  • It's easy and affordable to get anywhere in Asia from HK. Oz/NZ are also accessible from here, Europe, India, and N. America are all manageable, too.

Minus:

  • Terrible air pollution, produced locally by idling cars and hyperactive air-conditioning habits, and by HK-owned factories just over the border. This may improve in coming years, with stricter labor laws in Guangzhou forcing factories to take their dodgy business to more accommodating provinces, and the economic downturn slowing production.
  • With a priority exclusively on business rather than culture, HK can seem soulless to creative types, but there are definitely opportunities here, if you hunt for them.

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in Hong Kong?

Get out of your tiny apartment and get involved in something related to your interests. There will be lots of fascinating people to meet: some will have strong HK roots, others will be in the process of making their own. Either way, you won't forget this crazy metropolis.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about Hong Kong?

  • Here's a blog with images from the bilingual children's book I've recently illustrated:

Cover of my new children's book

Expat Jazz in China

Josh

Josh is a young American expat who has been living in Chengdu, China for the past year. His desire for excitement after school led him to China, where he now performs and teaches jazz. Josh shares some aspects of his expat life in China, including why he thinks it's important to speak the local language and what he thinks are the positives and negatives of living in the Middle Kingdom.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?

Born in the USA

-In which country and city are you living now?

Chengdu, China

-Are you living alone or with your family?

With friends

-How long have you been living in China?

1 year

-What is your age?

24

-When did you come up with the idea of living in China?

I came up with the idea to come here when my friend came back from China with amazing stories and photos. I was a recent music school graduate with no gigs, students, or work of any kind. I wanted some excitement and an opportunity to put my trade to use.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a work permit?

Easy.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?

I'm still covered by my family's plan. Medicine is really cheap here though, at least for simple problems.

-How do you make your living in China? Do you have any type of income generated?

I make ends meet performing and teaching jazz. I have 4 or 5 gigs a week at bars, restaurants, hotels, etc. During the day I teach jazz saxophone to a few students from the music conservatory. To network I basically just showed up to a few jam sessions and got to know the members of the pre-existing jazz scene. From there things took off on their own.

-Do you speak Chinese and do you think it's important to speak the local language? 

I do speak the language and think it's pretty important. There are lots of local people who love to practice their English with foreigners, but I feel like I have gotten to know this place on a different level through learning Mandarin. And of course there are plenty of people (the majority) who speak no English. So Chinese isn't essential to get by here, but it makes the experience much more rewarding.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes?

I miss the clean air the most, and sometimes the clean, simple, healthy food.

-Do you have other plans for the future?

I'm planning on going to law school next year, focusing on international law.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

Renting, about $100 per month. Great location, lots of space, a little dingy though.

-What is the cost of living in China?

Very, very cheap, but wages are accordingly low.

-What do you think about the Chinese?

Most are great, really warm people. They are treat foreigners very kindly, but sometimes with a bit too much affection.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in China?

Every city is so different so it's hard to make generalizations. That said, China is generally a really cheap place to live, it's easy to travel, the people are very kind to foreigners, and the food is great. Some drawbacks are pollution, the lack of strong safety standards, and I guess the food is not for everyone.

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in China?

Bring patience, a Chinese phrase book, some pepto, and you should be all set.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about China?

Exploring life in Beijing, China

Lee Rendleman

American woman Lee has dreamed of living in China since she was a little girl, and that dream is on its way to becoming reality. She now lives in Beijing and though she'll be going back home soon, she's hopeful of finding opportunities that will enable her to visit China regularly or to stay there permanently. Here she describes life as an expat in Beijing and shares tips on living in China.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born? 

Greensboro, NC, USA

-In which country and city are you living now?

Beijing, China

-Are you living alone or with your family?

Alone

-How long have you been living in China?

4 months

-What is your age?

28

-When did you come up with the idea of living in China?

I've wanted to live in China since I was 10.  I'm fascinated with the culture, people, food, everything.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a working permit?

I went through an internship program, Abroad China.  So, they sponsored my visa and made it very easy.  However, in trying to find more permanent work, I have found it very difficult.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?  

Not at all.  As long as you pay, BCBS will take you.

-How do you make your living in China? Do you have any type of income generated?

I don't know if you could call what I make a decent living but I do get paid...very little.  I, fortunately, also still work for my family back in the States.  My sponsor company, Abroad China, found my internship.  I applied to their program in the States, was accepted, had a phone interview with my prospective employer, got the job, and moved to China.

-Do you speak Chinese and do you think it's important to speak the local language?

I can get by with my Chinese.  I wish I didn't work so much so I could have more time to study the language.  It is really difficult to function in China and not know any of the language.  Although, I've had plenty of friends that have done it.  There aren't many people in China that speak English--it's not like moving to Europe.  The customs are different, but there aren't any hard and steadfast rules you have to abide.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes? 

Of course, I miss home, my family, and friends.  My favorite things to do are just walking and exploring the city, visiting different restaurants, seeing the sights, shopping, and going to the parks (this is my favorite!).

 

-Do you have other plans for the future?

I am returning to the States Oct 31st.  I hope to find a job that relates to China and either keeps me traveling back or has me move here permanently.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

I rent a studio; it's very small but adequate.  I pay 3200RMB per month which is about $460 USD.

-What is the cost of living in China?

Living in China can be very, very cheap, but if you like foreign type things, then you pay for them big time.

-What do you think about the Chinese?

I love the locals even though they stare at foreigners.  They are very warm and friendly.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in China?

Positive aspects: ancient history, culture, warmth, food, lots of things to do and see, and so much more

Negative: working here can be frustrating because things don't always happen quickly

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in China?

Have a positive attitude, be open, flexible, and adaptable.  Do not expect things to work in China like they do in the States or anywhere else in the Western world because they don't.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about China?

My favorite blog is, of course, my own: www.chinabizstrategy.com

Other extremely helpful sites are www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing, www.thebeijinger.com, and www.mobilenative.com.

Young German woman amongst Chinese in a man's world in Shanghai

Dr. Carola Hantelmann Nawa

German expat Carola has been living in China since 2003 and has learned quite a lot about the local language and culture. Here she describes her experiences as a foreigner in the city of Shanghai, her observations of the city and its people, and gives some advice about what to consider when planning a move to China.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?

1972, in Wolfenbüttel, Germany.

-In which country and city are you living now?

Shanghai, China

-Are you living alone or with your family?

Emigrated here alone, met my Zambian husband of 3 months last year right here Smile

-How long have you been living in China?

Since Feb 03 in Ningbo, Qingdao, Yantai; came to Shanghai July of 2005.

-What is your age?

36

-When did you come up with the idea of living in China?

In 2002 due to my job as a headhunter in real estate and due to the fact that I am a Cultural Sociologist. Originally...

-Was it hard to get a visa or a working permit?

Not at all. If you have an employer - smooth. Health inspection is hilarious.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?

No. However, pure Chinese med. ins. is not what we expect from it in Germany, so I have an international one, too.

-How do you make your living in China? Do you have any type of income generated?

It's impossible to come to China for work and not have a work visa already. Plus I got hunted from job to job, which is how I came to have the privilege to know 4 Chinese cities and cultures so well. I always worked as the coordinator for the industry networks of Chinese-German University Co-operations: Networking, Marketing, HR-Fair Orgaisation, Placing of interns in both countries, etc. Currently on remaining holiday I am looking for a new challenge.

-Do you speak Chinese and do you think it's important to speak the local language?

Yes and YES. Otherwise they won't respect you ever completely. And it is of utmost importance to respect Chinese customs.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes?

Home is, and always was, where I live - and now where my husband and I live. But I do miss my family sometimes. What's Skype for...?

-Do you have other plans for the future?

Travel as much as possible, learn as much as possible, start business again in new places...there is still a LOT to experience!

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

We pay rmb7300 for a 3-bedroom, 149sqm (Chinese calculation), sunny, 31st floor, next to the metro station, 10 minutes from People's Square, one of Shanghai's centres. However, if you don't know how to deal with local agencies, you can easily end up paying a "friendship price" as high as $3000 for the same place. Wink

-What is the cost of living in China?

Depends. If you can digest MSG, than it's cheap. If you care for clean food, or even organic, it's doubling Zurich's Bahnhofstrasse. Same for health care.

-What do you think about the Chinese?

You can experience everything: utmost impoliteness and incredible hospitality and generosity. Lucky for me, so far the absolute touching friendliness in personal encounters outnumbered racism (which is a ghastly but existing feature) and cheating by far.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in China?

Please refer the mentioned above Wink plus - the environment here is amongst the 10 unhealthy places on earth. A pity.

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in China?

Check out their legal restrictions for visas CLOSELY before you enter. Catch up with expats who are already here - and with several, to get several points of views (which can extremely vary due to their occupation). Once here, remain polite and quiet and observe until you dare make a move or comment. Chinese really do not like to lose face and you really don't want to be treated weird.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about China?

www.schanghai.com 

http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai

Beijing for Beginners: An Irishman in the People's Republic

Gary Finnegan
Gary Finnegan

Beijing may have its quirks, but Irish expat Gary still finds that living there can be a fascinating experience. This teacher-writer describes why he and his girlfriend decided to move to China and their experiences living as foreigners in a non-tourist area of Beijing.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?

Dublin, Ireland

-In which country and city are you living now?

Beijing, China

-Are you living alone or with your family?

I moved to Beijing with my girlfriend, who is also Irish

-How long have you been living in China?

One year

-What is your age?

28 

-When did you come up with the idea of living in China?

About 18 months ago we decided to quit our jobs and go traveling. So we sat down with a map and an open mind, and eventually decided on China. The main reason was that it seemed like the most exciting place on the planet because it's changing so quickly and we were looking for an entirely alien experience - which Beijing certainly delivered.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a working permit?

At the moment it's very difficult to come to China without having a job offer in advance. I had accepted a job teaching at a university and they were very helpful in organising the visa. There are a lot of procedures to go through though, including having a full medical.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?

I got global health insurance (which was very expensive) with a company in Ireland but my employer provides basic cover.

-How do you make your living in China? Do you have any type of income generated?

I found my teaching job online. That's my official occupation but the workload isn't terribly heavy. I've also worked part-time at the English language department of China Radio International and done a lot of writing. I've just had my first book published - and yes, it's about China!

-Do you speak Chinese and do you think it's important to speak the local language?

It's very important to speak a little Chinese but I must admit I'm still very much a beginner. I had taken a few lessons before I left Ireland but I found it quite difficult to make myself understood. If/when you get a handle of the basics, Chinese people will think you are a genius. And they appreciate the effort even if your pronunciation is iffy.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes?

I miss people at home and there are often things that irk me about China. It can be quite time-consuming trying to get basic things done in banks, post offices, hospitals, etc.

After a while it's easy to get tired of the food too so the occasional trip to western restaurants - or an Irish bar if I'm really homesick - can be necessary to maintain sanity.

-Do you have other plans for the future?

I want to see more of Asia so the next stop is Thailand, followed by Vietnam and possibly Cambodia.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?

My salary is quite low but the university provides an apartment. Friends who live in privately rented accommodation pay around 3,500 Yuan for comfortable modern apartments. You can pay much more if you want luxury or if you'd like to live in an authentic old hutong in the city centre.

-What is the cost of living in China?

It's low but rising rapidly. If you eat out in a local Chinese restaurant, dinner for two should be less than 100 Yuan - sometimes much less. But eating in western bars or restaurants isn't much cheaper than Europe or the U.S.

Clothes can be extremely cheap if you get used to haggling in markets like Ya Shou (which is near Workers' Stadium in the Chao Yan district, in case you happen to be in the neighbourhood).

-What do you think about the Chinese?

I live in western Beijing which is a world away from the central tourist traps and the east-side business district so at the beginning local people were rather curious about us. We were usually the only foreign faces to be seen on the streets in our neighbourhood so people stared at us a lot, but over the past year that has begun to change.

Chinese people are generally very respectful of foreigners, even though there's a cultural gulf that sometimes leaves tourists thinking the Chinese are rude. I'm a little disappointed that I didn't make more Chinese friends. The fact that my Chinese is not great is a major factor but I wouldn't describe most people here as being particularly open to befriending outsiders.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in China?

 The bureacracy is a killer, so too is the media censorship which has eased a little ahead of the Olympics. The smog is a source of daily griping and traffic can be a nightmare (although the same can be said of lots of big cities).

In the plus column, it's a genuinely fascinating place to live and there are lots of opportunities to work in areas that might be more difficult to break into at home - particularly in media, PR, communications, marketing etc. And teaching, of course. 

It's also easily to live quite well on a low (by western standards) salary. 

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in China?

Learn as much Chinese as possible before you get here - at the very least learn the numbers so you can haggle in markets. 

If I may shamelessly plug my new book: I highly recommend reading Beijing for Beginners: An Irishman in the People's Republic. It charts my battle with culture shock and is packed with personal anecdotes as well as background info on Chinese society, history and culture. 

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about China?

www.danwei.org is an excellent site.

www.garyfinnegan.blogspot.com is my personal blog.

www.beijingforbeginnersblog.blogspot.com is the site for my new book on life as an expat in China.

The book is available here (and other online bookstores) if you're interested.

Belgian expat Kristof in China: The jungle - back to basics...

Kristof

Originally from Belgium, Kristof found himself deciding to move to and live in China because of its expanding economy. Here he tells us what he likes and dislikes so far about living in China, and gives a few tips on the things to consider before moving there.

Interview Questions:

-Where were you born?
Belgium

-In which country and city are you living now?
Hangzhou, China

-Are you living alone or with your family?
Alone

-How long have you been living in China?
About 3 months

-What is your age?
31

-When did you come up with the idea of living in China?
Living in many different countries the past years, I choose to live and work in China because of its expanding economy.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a working permit?
For China it was not that difficult, thanks to my employer.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?
No, private insurances can be obtained everywhere.

-How do you make your living in China? Do you have any type of income generated?
For me, finding a good job is always the key before actually moving to any destination. Some expats take the risk to find a job on the spot and actually succeed in doing so ; but after many years, I learned it is best to find a job first and then move. And I guess the internet is probably the best medium to find a job. For China, it took me about 2 months to find a job.

-Do you speak Chinese and do you think it's important to speak the local language?
I don't speak Chinese, but i am willing to learn the basics. It always helps, especially in China. Not all Chinese people speak English, especially outside the big cities and even then.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes?
Home has different things to offer than China; I guess China is a bit back to basics when it comes to recreational activities.

-Do you have other plans for the future?
A pc, a remote connection and a beach.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?
A standard apartment (separate bathroom and separate bedroom) can be rented for 3000-5000 RMB, the only differences from other countries is that the rental period will always be at least 6 months, if not 1 year. Renting an apartment for 1 month is hard to find.

-What is the cost of living in China?
Life in Asia is generally speaking cheap. I'd say, depends on your lifestyle.

-What do you think about the Chinese?
Chinese people have a lack of creativity, but they are very warm.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in China?
Pro's: China has some beautiful places, tourist attractions, travelling around China is cheap and jobs are not that difficult to find.

Contra's : the language, the weather and recreational activities.

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in China?
Try to find a living inside the big, international cities: Shanghai, Beijing or Hongkong. If not, learn Chinese first.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about China?

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