American expats Jim and Venitha prepare to go back home to the USA after more than a year of living in Singapore

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After spending approximately one-and-a-half years in Singapore, Jim and Venitha are leaving the Asian city-state of Singapore to fly back to the USA. Living and working in Singapore brought them a plethora of experiences--some good, some bad. They appreciated and enjoyed the things that Singapore had to offer, like the culture and the travel opportunities. Still, they are not at all sorry about the prospect of going back home.
 
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Jim and Venitha

January 29 2007 

-Where were you born?
Wisconsin, USA

-In which country and city are you living now?
Singapore

-Are you living alone or with your family?
Just the two of us, a couple in our late 30’s, married for ten years.

-How long have you been living in Singapore?
19 months

-What is your age?
Late 30’s

-When did you come up with the idea of living in Singapore?
The job opportunity presented itself for Jim about 9 months before we actually moved, and we’d talked about being open to the possibility for at least a year before that. Co-workers who had traveled to Singapore and/or were currently living there were very encouraging, and we liked that Singapore was “Asia Lite,” yet presented many exciting travel opportunities.

-Was it hard to get a visa or a working permit?
Given that we both had jobs lined up (with the same companies we worked for before the move), no. Obscene amount of paperwork, though.

-Was it difficult for you to get medical insurance before you went there or when you first arrived?
No, and again this was thanks to the companies we work for. Figuring out the process for getting our medical insurance to reimburse us for our medical expenses, however, was a complete nightmare.

-How do you make your living in Singapore? Do you have any type of income generated?
We both had jobs lined up before we moved (with the same companies we already worked for in the US), with Jim’s company sponsoring the move and providing the “package,” and Venitha’s company riding on the coattails.

-Do you speak the local language and do you think it's important to speak the local language?
Most Singaporeans speak English (for some definition of English), which is a huge advantage for a Westerner wanting to move to Asia. Jim and I took a Malay language class, mostly for fun, and it was very helpful in learning a lot of the local idioms and foods. Many locals also speak Mandarin, and while knowing some Mandarin would certainly have added to our experience here, it’s definitely not necessary.

Regarding local customs, part of the fun of living in Singapore is the wide variety of religious holidays that are observed, though it’s unfortunately very difficult to befriend locals so you can see how these holidays are truly celebrated.

-Do you miss home and family sometimes?
Absolutely. It’s far more difficult that we had expected to be across the world from aging parents and growing nieces and nephews, and we miss our lifestyle in the US, especially its many outdoor recreational activities, more than I’d have believed.

The limited recreational activities available here is one of our chief complaints, as indicated by the fact that our top one, travel, requires actually leaving the country. But Singapore is a great launching pad for anywhere and everywhere in SE Asia, and we’ve really made the most of this, traveling somewhere new and exotic nearly every month we’ve been here. Within Singapore, we’ve attended international sporting events (badminton, table tennis, rugby) and seen many cultural shows (West Side Story, Forbidden City, Stomp) and concerts (Eric Clapton) at Singapore’s world-class venues, and enjoyed the wide variety of celebrated religious holidays. Singapore also has many excellent museums and art galleries and a fabulous zoo. Jim laughingly lists massage as his favorite recreational activity here. No, he does not mean “happy ending” massages, though that’s readily available as well.

-Do you have other plans for the future?
We’re currently in the process of moving home. We’ve got less than a week left in Singapore, and we couldn’t be happier about it.

-What about housing, have you bought, or are you renting a home? How much do you pay for it?
We’re renting a condo. We (actually, Jim’s employer) pay S$3500/month for a 19th-floor three-bedroom penthouse apartment, including a fabulous rooftop garden with an incredible view of the city.

-What is the cost of living in Singapore?
Jim receives a cost-of-living adjustment that implies that it’s more expensive here than at home, but we find it very inexpensive to live here, primarily because we’re happy using the wonderful (and cheap!) public transportation instead of owning a car. In general, necessities here are cheaper, and luxuries are more expensive. For example, food, especially eating out, which is the norm for the locals, can be very affordable; alcohol, on the other hand, is ridiculously expensive.

-What do you think about the Singaporean people?
We’ve found the locals to be impolite, unfriendly, and unhappy in general - and fairly indifferent to foreigners. They work a lot, and many have few interests outside of work besides food, shopping, and family. Most Singaporeans grew up here and have their entire families and lifelong friends here, so have no interest in spending their limited time getting to know someone who won’t be around for long.

Singapore’s enormous population of expats more than makes up for this, however, and we’ve made wonderful friends here from all over the world. I had been told all of this before we moved here, and I was determined to break the mold, to make Singaporean friends and not just to hang out with other expats. This attitude made for a very lonely and unhappy first six months here and was a big mistake. Friends make all the difference in the world.

-What are the positive and negative aspects of living in Singapore?
The positives: the travel opportunities, the fact that it’s an Asian country that speaks English, the enormous expat population, not having to drive, great food.

The negatives: the weather (it’s impossible to stress enough the wide-ranging effects of Singapore’s hot and humid weather, from how fit I am, to what leisure activities I do, to my hair, to how much I enjoy Christmas, to…), the complete lack of work/life balance, the distance from family, unhappy and unfriendly locals.

-Do you have any tips for our readers about living in Singapore?
* If outdoor recreation is important to you, think long and hard before moving here. My initial reaction to the first things I learned about Singapore (that it’s hot and that the people love shopping and eating) was that I would hate it here, and I was absolutely correct, in spite of going into the move with a very positive attitude.
* If you’re a normal-sized westerner (no, I don’t mean fat), bring all the clothes and shoes you’re going to want with you.
* It’s well worth the effort it takes to learn the bus system.
* Easily the best thing about living here is the many fabulous travel destinations nearby – take advantage of it! We went somewhere nearly every month we were here.

-Do you have any favorite Web sites or blogs about Singapore?
*Singapore Adventure – The good, the bad, and the ugly about our life in Singapore, start to finish, including lots of tales of our travels.
*Expat Singapore – Great resource for expats in Singapore. Includes incredibly useful, though very negative, message boards.

Just 2 more pathetic Americans

braddockrd's picture

These two people are really depressing. They should have never left Colorado, that is for sure. I lived in Singapore for a year and found it one of the best experiences ever. Contrary to them, I found it very easy to make local friends. Once they realized I was not one more dull gringo like these two they immediately opened up. I very quickly ceased associating with Americans. Most of them are just like these two, always moaning about the country, the weather and the people. Singapore is probably the best city to live in the world. The weather is tough, but you get used to it. The outdoors are amazing! I cannot believe these 2 did not enjoy it. I found SIngapore very easy to live in, very cheap and very friendly. No wonder the only people these two were able to relate to were other Americans from COlorado. That tells you everything, doesn't it? Do all of us a favor and STAY in Colorado.

USA vs USA

madjanssen's picture

As a born and bred Singaporean presently living in the Netherlands (and an immigrant myself), I have to say I agree with both perspectives. I do understand the frustrations of Jim and Venitha because Singapore is VERY DRASTICALLY different from Colorado so perhaps it was a rude culture shock to them. However, I would like to offer my own perspective as a (former) local in the hopes of balancing out this discussion.

90% of the locals don't live in condos but in government housing "far" in the heartlands and the best way to meet locals is to live amongst them and Jim and Venitha didn't have that edge so it was harder of them. Naturally, friendships can be struck at anywhere and anytime but they probably didn't have enough time to search any further. Their limited time in Singapore is also a hindrance to doing a lot of things like making friends because I think Singaporeans aren't used to the idea of a "temporary" friendship but if they had found the right people, it would have worked out - after all we are used to losing touch with a lot of the friends that we make.

Locals don't have the luxury of benefits foreign families and couples do i.e. full-time nanny, condominium residence with its endless facilities and everything paid for by the company so it's daunting for us to want to befriend people who have no idea what it's like in middle-class Singapore as opposed to the Singapore experienced by foreigners. Foreigners are worshipped in Singapore especially if you are in the corporate fields and get treated very well socially and financially so some of us might be afraid to approach you guys for fear of being labelled 'gold-diggers'. The different economic backgrounds might also limit the number of things you can do together because the locals might be happy enough dining at their local heartland hawker centres but the foreigners might shun it (most do) and opt for the fine dining available in upscale restaurants which cost a week's salary.

I dare say Singaporeans are friendly people but the rat race is catching up to them and even if they want to, they probably don't have enough time to stay friendly and helpful as much as they would like to. If you manage to meet the right people, it would have been a totally different experience but they work long hours and then have to tend to their children whom they don't get to see too much and still make a life for themselves. Jim and Venitha's limited time there didn't give them a chance to find that out. Singapore's population is also expanding with the influx of immigrants totally unaware of local customs and traditions so it might be that one of those impolite person they encountered might not have been a blue-blooded Singapore at all but a clueless immigrant.

I think foreigners like braddockrd do love Singapore because it IS different from where he comes from and I think that's the trick to the whole thing. We are all creatues of habit and some of us find it harder to accept something that is very different than what we are used to. Jim and Venitha's experience is invaluable too because different perspectives and opinions do provide for a balanced outlook and give other readers something to think about. I do hope this hasn't hindered other people from exploring my beautiful but dsyfunctional country.

Americans

jamesc66's picture

I agree with your evaluation of these two on their 'business trip'. They were there for financial reasons. I don't agree with what you say about we Americans. Most of us tend to adapt well in any environment and we are as hard-nosed and tough as any nation in this world..not 'whiners' as you expressed. I don't know what country you are from but I know I wouldn't base my opinion on a small minority of your population. ...James Christian from the Great State Of Tennesse GOD BLESS AMERICA ! ....and YOUR country too!

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